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Re: Future of gccbug


Daniel Berlin <dberlin@dberlin.org> writes:

>> Hmm, then something is wrong somewhere.  Everything that is entered in
>> bugzilla gets posted to me with a To: gcc-bugs and Reply-To:
>> gcc-bugzilla.
>
> Which is correct, don't wide-reply.
>
>> It happens that a wide-reply sends mails to both addresses and things
>> get duplicated.  My suggestion is to have a separate list for
>> gcc-bugzilla traffic.
>
> This is why the top of the email says what it says :P
>
> If i had any clue how our list software worked (i don't even know what
> the heck we use), i would make it ignore any replies where
> gcc-bugzilla is copied.
>
> Remember, only copying gcc-bugzilla actually gets the comment into the
> database.
>
> And we want all bug discussion to be in the bug db.
> So don't copy gcc-bugs, only gcc-bugzilla.

Adding Mail-Copies-To: and Mail-Followup-To: headers to bugzilla
generated mail may help with this, at least with some MUAs.  See
http://cr.yp.to/proto/replyto.html  [I think this made it into
one of the DRUMS proposed RFCs but I can't find them right now].

Since you're soliciting suggestions:

It would help if all the messages sent out in response to an update of
a single bug had the same message-id so that duplicate message filters
would work on them.  Right now if someone adds a comment to a bug that
I reported or is assigned to me, I get one copy of the comment in my
inbox (which is what I want) and another copy in the gcc-bugs folder.

The [Bug foo/nnn] tags tend to shove the actual subject off the
right-hand side of the gcc-bugs summary window.  Could these be moved
to the end of the line?  And could we dispense with the foo/ bit,
which AFAIunderstand is a relict of GNATS?

The [3.x regression] tags also do this - aren't these supposed to be
keywords?

The From: munging causes BBDB to go nuts.

The text of a bugzilla mailing has an immense amount of "noise".
Consider:

| From: "pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org" <gcc-bugzilla@gcc.gnu.org>
| Subject: [Bug debug/12860] [3.4 regression] stabs register number out of range
| To: gcc-bugs@gcc.gnu.org
| Date: 7 Nov 2003 18:16:12 -0000
|
|
| PLEASE REPLY TO gcc-bugzilla@gcc.gnu.org ONLY, *NOT* gcc-bugs@gcc.gnu.org.
| 
| http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12860
| 
| 
| pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org changed:
| 
|            What    |Removed                     |Added
| ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|            Keywords|                            |wrong-code
|    Target Milestone|---                         |3.4
| 
| 
| ------- Additional Comments From pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org  2003-11-07 18:16 -------
| Looks like the psedu registers from gcc are being used for the debug info.

The actual content of interest is lost in all this boilerplate.
I would far rather see something like this instead:

| From: Andrew Pinski <pinskia@gcc.gnu.org>
| Subject: stabs register number out of range [Bug 12860]
| To: gcc-bugs@gcc.gnu.org
| Date: 7 Nov 2003 18:16:12 -0000
| 
| Looks like the psedu registers from gcc are being used for the debug info.
|
| -- 
| Keywords: +wrong-code
| Target Milestone: ->3.4
|
| http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12860

where that -- is a proper sig delimiter (dash dash space newline).

The munging of the From: line *should* be obviated by proper MCT/MRT
headers. 

zw


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