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Re: gcc extensibility
Le 29 mars 2012 à 21:01, Gabriel Dos Reis a écrit :
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Romain Geissler
> <romain.geissler@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Le 29 mars 2012 à 18:06, Gabriel Dos Reis a écrit :
>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Romain Geissler
>>> <romain.geissler@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Le 29 mars 2012 à 14:34, Niels Möller a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> 1. I imagine the plugin API ought to stay in plain C, right?
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if this was already discussed and if the community
>>>> ended up with a clear answer for this question. If it's not the case
>>>> i would prefer a plugin interface in C++, for the same reasons it
>>>> was decided to slowly move the internals to C++.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I do not think people working on plugins have come up with a
>>> specification and an API they agree on. Which makes any talk
>>> of restricting GCC's own evolution premature if not pointless.
>>
>> I didn't mean the choice of C or C++ for the future plugin API may
>> in any way alter the own GCC evolution. The API only consists in
>> a bunch of stable wrappers to the unstable internals. Once such
>> an API exists, that won't be hard to update the impacted wrappers
>> to follow that changes, and thus it would have only minor impact on
>> the internals evolution.
>>
>
> From past discussions, I gather that the plugins people
> want an uncompromising access to every bits of GCC internals (hence
> resist any notion of specification and API) and don't want to see evolution
> of GCC that might break their working plugins, for example using C++ because
> their own plugins are written in C. Yet, we also receive lectures on modules
> and what they should look like in GCC. I have concluded that unless they sort
> out their internal inconsistencies, there is no hope of seeing progress
> any time son.
I completely agree (for my own, I don't ask for full featured API, and
prioritize any internal enhancement over plugin API enhancement)