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Re: Beyond GCC 3.0: Summing Up
- To: Mark Mitchell <mark at codesourcery dot com>
- Subject: Re: Beyond GCC 3.0: Summing Up
- From: "Joseph S. Myers" <jsm28 at cam dot ac dot uk>
- Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:56:22 +0100 (BST)
- cc: "gcc at gcc dot gnu dot org" <gcc at gcc dot gnu dot org>
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Mark Mitchell wrote:
> This argument is common -- but seems to be refuted by the fact that
> literally hundreds of regressions were fixed on the 3.0 branch, and
> that many more remain. Why weren't they fixed earlier? Many of them
> were reported months and months before they were fixed.
Because few enough people look at GNATS, which means that rather than
being a source of clear correct bug reports with concise test cases, it is
mainly a source of junk. If every PR were correct, applied to current CVS
and had been verified as a genuine bug, people might be more likely to
find bugs to fix there.
It is easy enough for anyone to look through GNATS and find 50 bugs which
are bogus, fixed in current versions, or incomplete and so need to be put
in state "feedback". But few people do this. In particular, several very
active GCC developers don't do this - but since the more active GCC
developers are more likely to have the knowledge, memory and experience to
evaluate bug reports and match them against previous discussions, this,
and not just coding, is a desirable contribution. (Though much of the
filtering of incomplete bug reports could be done simply by a few
volunteers doing basic checks on new PRs as they come in, and this is a
way beginners could be given GNATS-only accounts and contribute.) Some
statistics on GNATS messages to gcc-prs from January to June of this year:
970 neil@gcc.gnu.org
859 nathan@gcc.gnu.org
565 lerdsuwa@gcc.gnu.org
341 mmitchel@gcc.gnu.org
338 jsm28@gcc.gnu.org
305 bkoz@gcc.gnu.org
264 rodrigc@gcc.gnu.org
203 pme@gcc.gnu.org
174 bryce@gcc.gnu.org
145 tromey@gcc.gnu.org
141 rth@gcc.gnu.org
132 apbianco@gcc.gnu.org
120 aoliva@gcc.gnu.org
115 gerald@gcc.gnu.org
74 pbienst@gcc.gnu.org
65 toon@gcc.gnu.org
60 gdr@gcc.gnu.org
40 jdennett@gcc.gnu.org
33 dje@gcc.gnu.org
29 ljrittle@gcc.gnu.org
25 rearnsha@gcc.gnu.org
18 warrenl@gcc.gnu.org
16 bernds@gcc.gnu.org
14 ghazi@gcc.gnu.org
10 joel@gcc.gnu.org
10 green@gcc.gnu.org
6 hubicka@gcc.gnu.org
5 bje@gcc.gnu.org
4 ro@gcc.gnu.org
3 loewis@gcc.gnu.org
2 dj@gcc.gnu.org
1 wilson@gcc.gnu.org
1 pb@gcc.gnu.org
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Joseph S. Myers
jsm28@cam.ac.uk