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Re: Deprecating cc0 (and consequently cc0 targets)
- From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz at physik dot fu-berlin dot de>
- To: Jeff Law <law at redhat dot com>
- Cc: gcc-patches <gcc-patches at gcc dot gnu dot org>, Denis Chertykov <chertykov at gmail dot com>, hp at axis dot com, Andreas Schwab <schwab at linux-m68k dot org>, Matt Thomas <matt at 3am-software dot com>
- Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 13:26:57 +0100
- Subject: Re: Deprecating cc0 (and consequently cc0 targets)
On September 20, 2019 5:38:38 PM GMT+02:00, Jeff Law <email@example.com> wrote:
>So this message is serving as official notice that we are *deprecating*
>all cc0 support in gcc-10. We are not removing any code or targets at
>this time -- removals would happen during the gcc-11 cycle.
>This is based on actually looking at the backend patterns.
>backends.html indicates the mn103 port would be affected, but I think
>it's just out-of-date. Similarly it fails to mention cr16, but cr16
>clearly has affected patterns (I'll address that separately)
>This patch deprecates the affected targets. With some magic folks can
>continue to build them. However, if nobody steps forward to convert
>them from cc0 to MODE_CC those targets will be removed during the
We have raised $5000 to support anyone willing to work on this for the
m68k target . We really need the m68k to stay as it's essential to
be able to compile for Linux/m68k, NetBSD/m68k and AROS/m68k (a new
and ABI-compatible AmigaOS clone). I'm sure other communities like in the
NeXTStep, Atari and Mac/m68k forums are interested in keeping the backend
as well. I'm confident we will be able to raise even more money as the
community is large and active.
>If someone is interested in possibly doing a conversion, I would
>strongly recommend reviewing the best documentation we have on the
>I worked with my son about a year ago to transition the v850 to MODE_CC
>using that page as a guideline. We also have a partial transition for
>the H8/300 port (not far enough to even build anything yet). I had
>hoped we would finish the H8/300 port last year and would have tackled
>another, but events have gotten in the way.
Any chance that the unfinished code can be shared? I'm looking for any
blueprints that can be used as a guidance for the work on the m68k
I have also created a guide on how to set up a QEMU virtual machine running
a fully fledged Debian/m68k which can be used for the development work .
>The transition isn't terribly hard, but does take time because of the
>number of patterns that have to be changed.
I have already looked at the conversion done on the V850 backend  but so far
I don't understand enough of the register representation stuff to be able
to know where to start. I'm seeing that all the "cc" attributes are being removed
but not replaced?
>  https://www.bountysource.com/issues/80706251-m68k-convert-the-backend-to-mode_cc-so-it-can-be-kept-in-future-releases
>  https://wiki.debian.org/M68k/QemuSystemM68k
>  https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/commit/d6c5e987e730b3b2b9ff396d2361518ff9cb5e23
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