The new bugzilla prepends the administrative summary to a bug report, which makes it difficult to find the often times very short messages. In addition, the "Tobias Burnus ... changed:" line is redundant and could be removed by reformatting the messages Here's an example between *****-lines: ******************************************************************* http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=45777 Tobias Burnus <burnus at gcc dot gnu.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |burnus at gcc dot gnu.org --- Comment #2 from Tobias Burnus <burnus at gcc dot gnu.org> 2010-09-24 11:42:33 UTC --- For what it is worth: gfortran 4.6 and 4.3.2, ifort 11.1, and pgf90 10.1 print 3 4 3 4 3 and thus call abort(). -- Configure bugmail: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug. ******************************************************************* The PR would be easier to read if the formatting is as follows: ******************************************************************* --- Comment #2 from Tobias Burnus <burnus at gcc dot gnu.org> 2010-09-24 11:42:33 UTC --- For what it is worth: gfortran 4.6 and 4.3.2, ifort 11.1, and pgf90 10.1 print 3 4 3 4 3 and thus call abort(). http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=45777 What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |burnus at gcc dot gnu.org -- Configure bugmail: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug. *******************************************************************
I like the fact that the bugzilla URL is topmost, that no longer requires me scrolling down.
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 02:19:53PM +0000, rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org wrote: > http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=45778 > > --- Comment #1 from Richard Guenther <rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org> 2010-09-24 14:19:47 UTC --- > I like the fact that the bugzilla URL is topmost, that no longer requires > me scrolling down. > > -- > Configure bugmail: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email > ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- > You reported the bug. I suppose leaving the URL at the top is ok, but reminds me of the evil offense of top posting. I also think that the last four lines quoted above should go away. Do we really need the 150+ byte message tacked onto ever message posted in bugzilla? The following URL shows (at least to me) that the current formatting clutters the actual content. http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-bugs/2010-09/msg02740.html
(In reply to comment #2) > I also think that the last four lines quoted above should > go away. Do we really need the 150+ byte message tacked > onto ever message posted in bugzilla? If you are complaining about emails being 150 bytes too large, that's a pretty weak reason. Also, these 4 lines are in the signature of the email. Any good email client would display them in a less prominent way, e.g. Thunderbird.
the web archive doesn't show signatures in a less prominent way, and the "you are receiving this mail because" and the userprefs URL are misleading on the archived mails
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 09:04:32AM +0000, LpSolit at netscape dot net wrote: > http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=45778 > > --- Comment #3 from Fr??d??ric Buclin <LpSolit at netscape dot net> 2010-09-25 09:04:24 UTC --- > (In reply to comment #2) > > I also think that the last four lines quoted above should > > go away. Do we really need the 150+ byte message tacked > > onto ever message posted in bugzilla? > > If you are complaining about emails being 150 bytes too large, that's a pretty > weak reason. Also, these 4 lines are in the signature of the email. Any good > email client would display them in a less prominent way, e.g. Thunderbird. > > -- > Configure bugmail: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email > ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- > You reported the bug. So, how do I selectively strip of these signatures with mutt and elm and leave all other signatures that I want to see alone? Are you saying that you do not find http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-bugs/2010-09/msg02740.html to be too cluttered?. Yes, some of us do use the email archive to read old threads. With this email there will now be 7 copies of the signature in the archive (not counting the 3 examples purposely included in the text of the email for discussion). How are you going to force people into trimming their replies to emails to carefully remove the signature? There are numerous examples of people who simply hit reply, add their text, and hit send without editing the original text.
(In reply to comment #5) > There are numerous examples of people who simply hit > reply, add their text, and hit send without editing > the original text. And that's the problem. With or without the signature being present, the most annoying part is all these useless quoted lines which are irrelevant to the reply. Imagine someone replying to your comment 0, and leaving the quoted message alone. The 4 lines of the signature are honestly a peanut compared to the 50 lines or so of the original comment, and wouldn't be responsible for the clutter. But I'm going to remove the signature for the mailing-lists, so that people won't complain anymore.
OK, signature removed for the mailing-lists.
(In reply to Richard Biener from comment #1) > I like the fact that the bugzilla URL is topmost, that no longer requires > me scrolling down. Me too. I was looking at older emails from bugzilla and compared them to the newer ones, I had harder time dealing with the olders. Note this was just recently I have been looking at ones older than 2010.
Closing this bug as won't fix. I removed the signature from the ML 7 years ago, and nobody else complained about the way emails are formatted.