>So, statically linked java is bigger than C++, but only by about a >factor of two. That varies between environments. When I compile a hello world in eCos (using GCC), it is 40k. That includes the eCos embedded OS with serial drivers and multithreading. Impressive by any standard. Compiling a static metal arm-elf-gcj hello world is ~1.5MB last I checked. Øyvind