groan: installation

[Andrew Haley]

Adam Megacz writes:
 > 
 > Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com> writes:
 > > Besides, it would introduce a dependency on Java while building gcj,
 > > and there is no way that we're going to depend on unfree software if
 > > we can avoid it.
 > 
 > This is a red herring; you can always use kaffe and one of the free
 > javac's to bootstrap.

And how do you get those?  I can see linux, freebsd, and nextstep
binaries for a few architectures on the kaffe web site.  Say you were
building gcc on an IA-64?  Or, for that matter, a System/390?

Andrew.