Seems quiet, but alive...

[dan bigelow]

Oops - didn't mean to tread on toes if I did... No pressure either folks, 
just jazzed that it's happening at all... I luv it!


So, to reiterate :

    fact : I did see an article in the Embedded Systems Sept 98 on compiled 
java! Per Bothner was a helpful resource to the author according to the 
credits.

    assumption : the article is accurate...

    assumption : the jc1 software in the article was intended to be 
commercial (sorry). The other two packages mentioned in the article were 
going to be commercial from what I could tell, so I just ... assumed...

    assumption : jc1 software is related to gcj (i still don't know)

    assumption : the cygnus software and Per Bothner mentioned in the 
article are the same as those doing gcj...

    fact : the whole project is bitchin and will make the world a better 
place!


Sorry for any confusion, and I'd pay something for a tool kit like this... 
Esp as a front end to the gnu gcc kits...

--danno

-----Original Message-----
From:	Per Bothner [SMTP:bothner@cygnus.com]
Sent:	Friday, October 09, 1998 10:08 AM
To:	dan bigelow
Cc:	'java-discuss@cygnus.com'
Subject:	Re: Seems quiet, but alive...

> Is there a ball-park price for that [Java] product,

Of course not.  There is no product.  We don't make up prices for
things we don't sell.  (While we have sold [but not delivered] Java
to one customer, the amount of money involved is just a totally
different ball-park than the $149 no-support no-development
skrink-wrap you mentioned.)

> and when can we play with it?

When we have a reasonably clean and stand-alone run-time.  Soon.

> and compiled java - from source
> or bytecode - should load/run bytecode java dynamically at run time

This may take a little longer to do.  While a simple interpreter
is (mostly) quite simple, there are a few tricky issues (such as
calling from a compiled method to an interpreted one and vice versa)
that will take a little effort to get right.  We are concentarting on
pure stand-alone fully-pre-compiled executables initially, with
support for an interpreter (or JIT) coming later.

	--Per Bothner
Cygnus Solutions     bothner@cygnus.com     http://www.cygnus.com/~bothner