[wish] Flexible array members in unions
David Brown
david@westcontrol.com
Fri May 12 12:32:22 GMT 2023
On 12/05/2023 08:16, Richard Biener via Gcc wrote:
> On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 11:14 PM Kees Cook via Gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 08:53:52PM +0000, Joseph Myers wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 May 2023, Kees Cook via Gcc wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 06:29:10PM +0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
>>>>> On 5/11/23 18:07, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> Would you allow flexible array members in unions? Is there any
>>>>>> strong reason to disallow them?
>>>>
>>>> Yes please!! And alone in a struct, too.
>>>>
>>>> AFAICT, there is no mechanical/architectural reason to disallow them
>>>> (especially since they _can_ be constructed with some fancy tricks,
>>>> and they behave as expected.) My understanding is that it's disallowed
>>>> due to an overly strict reading of the very terse language that created
>>>> flexible arrays in C99.
>>>
>>> Standard C has no such thing as a zero-size object or type, which would
>>> lead to problems with a struct or union that only contains a flexible
>>> array member there.
>>
>> Ah-ha, okay. That root cause makes sense now.
>
> Hmm. but then the workaround
>
> struct X {
> int n;
> union u {
> char at_least_size_one;
> int iarr[];
> short sarr[];
> };
> };
>
> doesn't work either. We could make that a GNU extension without
> adverse effects?
>
> Richard.
>
I would like and use an extension like that (for C and C++) - the
flexible arrays would act as though they were the same size as the
size-specific part of the union, rounding up in this case to make the
alignments correct.
I regularly want something like :
union ProtocolBuffer {
struct {
header ...
data fields ...
}
uint8_t raw8[];
uint32_t raw32[];
}
The "raw" arrays would be used to move data around, or access it from
communication drivers. As C (and C++) is defined, I have to split this
up so that the "raw" arrays can use "sizeof(ProtocolTelegram) / 4" or
similar expressions for their size. If flexible arrays in unions were
allowed here, it could make my code a little neater and use more
anonymous unions and structs to reduce unhelpful verbosity.
>> Why are zero-sized objects missing in Standard C? Or, perhaps, the better
>> question is: what's needed to support the idea of a zero-sized object?
>>
>> --
>> Kees Cook
>
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