Will tree-ssa be GCC 3.5?

Scott Robert Ladd coyote@coyotegulch.com
Mon Dec 1 14:50:00 GMT 2003


Robert Dewar wrote:
> The general FSF volunteer community is not the party to act here as a 
> credible contender. It is not set up to make proposals for money and 
> guarantee performance. That has to be the domain of companies or 
> consultants with appropriate expertise.

So, on one hand, you demand funding before giving an time estimate (not
a guarantee, an *estimate*), then you turn around and claim that the FSF
is not caopable of accepting such funds and projects?

Excuse the sound of my incredulous laughter.

> Fine, so it is in the context of these "major companies" that it makes 
> sense to follow up the issue of getting a specific commitment.

No one is going to make a commitment if the FSF "is not set up to make
proposals of guarantee performance." (to quote you from above).

> Who is we here? How could such a commitment be made? A commitment 
> requires a contract between parties, who is the party here. The best 
> that you can expect is an expression of intent.

I never asked for a "commitment" -- all I asked for was a guesstimate of
when tree-ssa will become mainline, if it ever does!

> Of course one of the companies involved could, for free, give a 
> commitment, but in the absence of a contract that would still only be an 
> expression of intent, and not something that could be counted on.

You seem to want absolute answers from everyone else without having to
make any commitments, however minor, yourself.

> I was simply pointing out that there is a huge gulf
> between wanting something done from the general community, and getting a 
> contractual guarantee, suitable for incorporation into a mission 
> critical project plan, that something will be done on a specific schedule.

I never asked for a guarantee.

Am I to imply from the above that the FSF and GCC developers are
incapable of working on mission critical projects with specific
schedules? Now I understand why you have problems finding financial
support...

..Scott

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Scott Robert Ladd
Coyote Gulch Productions (http://www.coyotegulch.com)
Software Invention for High-Performance Computing





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