Will tree-ssa be GCC 3.5?

[Scott Robert Ladd]

Mark Mitchell wrote:
> There is no way to know for sure.

I was hoping for a rational guesstimate. GCC is the heart of the free 
software canon; I see no point in writing free software if you can't 
build it with a free compiler and libraries. A general sense of "when" 
is important -- hence my question.

The free software community has the luxury of being somewhat relaxed 
about schedules and plans -- unfortunately, that luxury is not available 
to people whose incomes rely on software. I've become keenly aware of 
this recently with my own small efforts...

> I am hoping tree-ssa will be ready for inclusion after 3.4 -- but we'll
> have to see what the world looks like when we get to that point.  We
> don't know when 3.4 will be out yet, and we don't know how much progress
> tree-ssa will make.

I've been under the (perhaps mistaken) impression that development of 
tree-ssa is parallel to that of 3.4. Certainly, there are significant 
associations between the two releases (bug fixes, for one) -- but 
tree-ssa appears rather divergent to my eyes, providing some much-needed 
enhancements to GCC.

Of course, I could be wrong in assuming that tree-ssa is assured of 
release -- outside the GCC community, there exists much confusion about 
the state and "reality" of gfortran.

Where should people focus their efforts? For example, I don't see much 
point in working on g77 given its ultimate replacement by gfortran.

> Later in this thread, there's lots of discussion about whether to call
> tree-ssa GCC 4.  I'm not terribly interested in that issue; it probably
> has more of a "marketing" impact than anything else.  I don't see a
> reason to do that, though.

I couldn't care less; like most threads, some people wandered off a bit. 
  The important questions is: Is tree-ssa going to attain "official" 
status, and if so, what is its likely release? 2004? 2005? After 
Longhorn? ;)

-- 
Scott Robert Ladd
Coyote Gulch Productions (http://www.coyotegulch.com)
Software Invention for High-Performance Computing