Hello Zdenek, is this patch still valid? http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2005-03/msg01611.html It appears to be the greatest step missing to the removal of loop.c, at least if http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/old%20loop%20optimizer is right. If so, it should be pinged for review, and added to the brand new patch manager. Thanks, Giovanni Bajo