Donn Terry donn@interix.com
Thu Jun 3 08:26:00 GMT 1999

In a submitted patch, I have a fix for a vaguely similar problem
(the way bitfields are packed in native vs. "gcc" mode.)

That same patch includes the mechanism for a flag (that could
well set a number of finer-grained options) called "native-struct",
which means "generate structures for the native compiler" (no,
I didn't address the issue of 2 incompatible native compilers ;-) ).
(There's also a corresponding __attribute__ to allow mixing the

I'd suggest that rather than trying to address this issue one
piece at a time (from a user point of view) that a single flag
that is either "native" or "gcc" be provided.  (Under the covers,
this probably sets a bunch of different flags on different
architectures, but 99% of users don't care HOW a structure is
layed out, just that it's compatible with existing code or the
ABI, or with file images.)

No comment on what the default should be.


Jeffrey A Law wrote:
>   In message < 19990602083208U.mitchell@codesourcery.com >you write:
>   >
>   > I don't think that this patch is in the spirit of GNU CC, as recorded
>   > in the current manual.  We could decide to change the manual, but I
>   > think it would be a not-insignificant change.  Before doing so, I
>   > suggest that the steering committee think carefully about the
>   > rationale for doing so, and debate the manual section quoted below.
> This may not be in the spirit of GCC, but if we fail to keep the signedness
> of bitfields the same as it has already been on that platform for years we
> introduce a stupid and totally avoidable change in the ABI.
> ie, that port has had signed bitfields for years.  Changing it now is, IMHO
> too late, this needed to have been caught and fixed a long time ago.
> Note that it is still possible to explicitly ask for signed or unsigned
> bitfields.
> And the signedness of bitfields does matter from an ABI standpoint, contrary
> to what the manual states.  I've been nailed badly by it in the past.
> jeff


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