fastjar and grepjar...hang with dmake, make, or gmake. Longest I have left it run is 2 hours... Dual processor 450Mhz Ultra 60, 90 Gb disk, 2 Gb RAM. System passes all diagnostic routines. Anyone got any ideas? Ed Edward C. Otto III edward.otto@the_garbage.sbcglobal.net (reply, removing the garbage from my email address.