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[rurik leffanta]

i apologise (sorry - i have lots of experience with being newbie)

but i have to go on just to attempt to depict myself as a non-idiot person..
(lol)

i've been trynig to learn c++ from "c++ by example," by steve donovan.. it
comes with an app called 'underc' (which is free on the web i believe) which
allows beginners to test c++ syntax in real time w/o having to compile..

unfortunately, this text has driven me completely mad with frustration over
the last few years (yes, years) because things like
ofstream out;
out.open("testfile.txt");
out << "here is a line" << endl;

WORK in 'underc,' although it seems to have no relevance to 'real' c++.. so
i've got a textbook full of apparently useless syntax, since there is no
explanation on how to 'qualify ofstream as a type,' which is my compile
error.

moreover, the text truly is 'by example,' ie. one is generally expected to
intuit the functionality from examples instead of a taxonomic analysis :p

sigh. i promise, no more emails to list this week, so tia for any replies.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "rurik leffanta" <plattermatic@earthlink.net>
To: <gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: newbie! - sorry!


> alex - thanks! sorry about that - since i've had to resort to using 1/2
> dozen tutorials to figure out each simple step, i now had 6 different
> conflicting sources of information..
>
> ..as such, following one alleged 'gcc' tutorial, i was successfully
> compiling examples with a two stage operation:
> gcc -c -o name.o name.c
> gcc -mwindows -o name.exe name.o
>
> so i guess i was attempting to compile it as a c program as opposed to
c++??
> :p dumb error, i blame the tutorial :)
>
> i've found i can compile c++ using two different commands:
>
> gcc name.cpp
> or:
> c++ name.cpp
>
> (or, now add alex's g++..)
>
> which is great, except i have no information about what the difference is,
> or any clue why they both work when i only have one v. of gcc, beyond i
have
> tutorials that say to do it each way.. curious indeed.
>
> i want to write my *first* program to simply create a text file and put a
> word in it.
>
> can i *find* a demo program that addresses just this fundamental,
elementary
> function? NO! :p
>
> instead i've got 32 'hello world' programs, each of which are different :)
>
> #include <fstream>
> ofstream out;
> out.open("testfile.txt");
> out << "here is a line" << endl;
> out.close();
>
> look. i'm totally screwing around in the dark here. i've tried wrapping it
> all in a 'main' function, leaving parts inside and outside, i'm aware that
> there is no 'nice, safe,' code for checking to see whether the file
exists.
>
> could somebody turn this into a nice example of how to make a program that
> creates a text file, and one day, i'll put it all on the web in a nice
> tutorial about how to use (install..) gcc coming from basic, in english..
>
> i hate asking for help :p :)
> --
> http://home.earthlink.net/~plattermatic
> http://www.panicnow.net/~xoxos
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rurik leffanta" <plattermatic@earthlink.net>
> To: <gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 10:22 AM
> Subject: newbie!
>
>
> > i'm attempting to write my vewy first c++ prog....
> >
> > in order to perform iostream operations, i have to #include <iostream>
> >
> > yes? yes. :p (or iostream.h, depending on tutorial..)
> >
> > however, 'iostream' is not at the top of my include folder. i am using
> mingw
> > 3.1.0-1 (and have successfully compiled example scripts) - the path for
> > iostream with this install is include/c++/3.2.3
> >
> > i've tried adding the path to the include statement, putting .h at the
end
> > of iostream..
> >
> > sheesh! should i copy everything from the subfolders and put it in the
> main
> > folder? what do i have to do here?
> > --
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~plattermatic
> > http://www.panicnow.net/~xoxos
> >
>