> See 3.9 p2. I don't think references are PODs; How do you copy the bytes > that make up a reference into an array of char? That is more clearly explained in 3.9/9 (reference types are not object types) and 3.9/10 (references are not POD). See also 8.3.2/3: # It is unspecified whether or not a reference requires storage (3.7). Regards, Martin