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Re: GCC 4.1 Projects


Hello,

> >>>>> Zdenek Dvorak writes:
> 
> Zdenek> I must admit I have very bad feeling about the whole "4.1 Projects"
> Zdenek> stuff.  IMHO this over-organizes things.  If people in general disagree
> Zdenek> with the Nathan's changes, or if there are any reasons to think that
> Zdenek> they are not tested enough or whatever when he submits them, of course
> Zdenek> that is something else.  But I don't think having just a single person
> Zdenek> decide which patches may go in and which must wait, or even just judging
> Zdenek> their importance, is a good idea.
> 
> 	Given the number of branches and major changes queued up for GCC
> 4.1, we need to coordinate the way that they are merged to try to avoid
> too much breakage and disruption.  Mark is the GCC Release Manager and he
> has the authority to try to herd the cats and manage this process.

at the beginning of the stage 1, there always is lot of major changes
queued up.  It never lead to unmanageable amount of "breakage and
disruption".

> 	I would appreciate if you and everyone else who have disagreements
> with individual decisions would stop turning these into complaints about
> the entire process.

This was not my intention.  It may well be that the Nathan's case is the
only one where the plan causes significant problems to anyone.  I simply
do not like the idea of someone centrally planning the future of GCC,
and I would complain even if things worked perfectly.

> There is no perfect solution.  I'm sure that we all would be happy to
> consider constructive suggestions, but complaining about the abstract
> concept of someone else having control or making decisions is not
> helpful.

As for constructive suggestions -- why not just forget on whole plan
and let the things work out the way they always did?  As you say,
there is no perfect solution, so why to complicate people's lives with
trying to get one?

Zdenek


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