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Re: GCC 3.5 Status (2004-08-29)


Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:

Making regular bug-fix releases at regularly spaced times makes good
sense to me. What I'm unclear about is what we want for the *major*
releases. Do we just want them every 6 months? Do we drive it by
quality? If by quality, what are the quality criteria? I suspect


We cannot drive it purely by quality, since we will never get quality unless we decide that we're going to make a release. The level of bug-fixing activity goes up steeply as we approach a release: people start to fear that "their" platform/language/etc. will not work well. That's why we use a combination: drive by time, and then push for quality towards that date.

| they can lead to lower quality, as more and more changes go in,
| sometimes without corresponding problem-solving efforts.  I also don't
| think that "wait until it is ready" is a practical method for a
| project this big with this much change and with so much
| inter-dependency between components.

Again, I agree. However, because the project is that big, I believe
branching proposals should meet consensus among developers.


In contrast, I don't see consensus as achievable in this group. We barely get consensus on technical issues, let alone on priorities.

Instead, I see my job as to take input, ponder it, consult with people, and make decisions. The decisions I made about 3.5 were made with lots of input from lots of people -- developers, users, and other stakeholders -- and informed by discussions with people going back as far as the summit in Ottawa. I don't expect everyone to be 100% happy about my decisions; I only hope to do a good enough job of being fair and reasonable that people respect them.

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