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Re: NEW vs. UNCONFIRMED
- From: Wolfgang Bangerth <bangerth at ices dot utexas dot edu>
- To: Dara Hazeghi <dhazeghi at yahoo dot com>
- Cc: jsm28 at cam dot ac dot uk, Giovanni Bajo <giovannibajo at libero dot it>, <gcc-bugs at gcc dot gnu dot org>
- Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 20:15:27 -0500 (CDT)
- Subject: Re: NEW vs. UNCONFIRMED
> I guess I agree with you in principle, I just feel you standards are a
> bit too stringent. Especially for runtime bugs, I'm not certain whether
> it's necessarily fair to ask the submitter to try multiple compiler
> versions, particularly if the failing one is the current release.
I think I left out something: I wouldn't have closed the report if I
didn't get feedback, or if it wasn't sufficient. I would just have left
the PR open.
We're presently having a problem with PRs in WAITING: you guys have been
putting lots of PRs into WAITING, for which I have the feeling that
there's already enough info in the PR. We shouldn't be closing these
reports if we don't get feedback in 3 months. We should review each of
them again then.
> > You should alse make sure that the bug report seems to contain sufficient
> > information for anyone with the right platform to reproduce it (all
> > required sources, compiler options, what is considered to be wrong, ...).
> > Given that information is present, and that what is described as being
> > wrong does indeed look like a bug, I think treating the bug as confirmed on the given
> > version and platform is reasonable.
That sound reasonable for bugs on obscure targets.
> I think something along these lines will provide the necessary
> information, without asking too much of the reporter... Especially
> since for other types bugs, we tend to have a somewhat lower threshold.
For example? For C/C++/Optimization, we do not put PRs into NEW just
because it "looks like this could indeed happen". I would be very much
opposed if we would adopt this as sufficient.
> Perhaps then we should set up a list of platforms,
Basically:
Wolfgang x86-linux only
Volker same
Christian sparc
Giovanni windows stuff
Falk alpha (and some more)
Dara seems like everything else :-)
> and people who are
> willing to test code on them? As it is, usually I just end up asking
> whoever seems most likely to have such systems, but I'd be reasonably
> confident that among all the "bugs people" and the regular developers
> we cover most of the platforms. Thoughts?
Well, MAINTAINERS lists who's responsible for a platform. If we can't find
someone with a platform, this would be the person to ask. Except, that
this doesn't seem to work most of the time -- responsible seems to be a
more flexible word than I thought.
> Another question I have is about including the platform of a bug in the
> summary (ie "[powerpc64] blah fails doing foo". Now that Daniel has
> made it possible to edit the host and target fields (thanks again!), it
> seems to me that we should be using those, rather than the bug summary,
I'm not yet won over -- PR submitters will fill in these fields for front
end bugs as well, and then searching will become more difficult again.
Also, what if a bug exists on multiple targets?
> Finally, a question about maintainers and bugs. Is there a consensus as
> to when it is okay to assign a bug to someone, and when it is okay to
> add someone (who's responsible for the relevant portion of the
> compiler) to the cc: list of a bug? Thanks,
I do it with a few people who I know are usually responsive to my
requests. Otherwise only if I contacted them on- or off-list. I consider
it as impolite just assigning a bug to someone without asking beforehand.
I think this is a question for the maintainers to answer.
W.
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