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Re: basic asm and memory clobbers
- From: Segher Boessenkool <segher at kernel dot crashing dot org>
- To: Richard Henderson <rth at redhat dot com>
- Cc: David Wohlferd <dw at LimeGreenSocks dot com>, Andrew Haley <aph at redhat dot com>, Jeff Law <law at redhat dot com>, "gcc at gcc dot gnu dot org" <gcc at gcc dot gnu dot org>, rth at gcc dot gnu dot org, pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org, Sandra Loosemore <sandra at codesourcery dot com>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:20:39 -0600
- Subject: Re: basic asm and memory clobbers
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On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 02:05:01PM +0100, Richard Henderson wrote:
> I'd be perfectly happy to deprecate and later completely remove basic asm
> within functions.
>
> Because IMO it's essentially useless. It has no inputs, no outputs, and no
> way to tell the compiler what machine state has been changed. We can say
> that "it clobbers everything", but that's not actually useful, and quite
> difficult as you're finding out.
>
> It seems to me that it would be better to remove the feature, forcing what
> must be an extremely small number of users to audit and update to extended
> asm.
Should asm("bla"); then be an extended asm with no input, no outputs,
no (non-automatic) clobbers? That would be the most straightforward and
logical semantics, but will it break user code?
Segher