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The nvptx port
- From: Jakub Jelinek <jakub at redhat dot com>
- To: Bernd Schmidt <bernds at codesourcery dot com>, Richard Henderson <rth at redhat dot com>
- Cc: gcc-patches at gcc dot gnu dot org
- Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 09:29:48 +0100
- Subject: The nvptx port
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- Reply-to: Jakub Jelinek <jakub at redhat dot com>
Hi!
I have some questions about nvptx:
1) you've said that alloca isn't supported, but it seems
to be wired up and uses the %alloca documented in the PTX
manual, what is the issue with that? %alloca not being actually
implemented by the current PTX assembler or translator? Or
some local vs. global address space issues? If the latter,
could at least VLAs be supported?
2) what is the reason why TLS isn't supported by the port (well,
__emutls is emitted, but I doubt pthread_[gs]etspecific is
implementable and thus it will not really do anything.
Can't the port just emit all DECL_THREAD_LOCAL_P variables
into .local instead of .global address space? Would one
need to convert those pointers to generic any way?
I'm asking because e.g. libgomp uses __thread heavily and
it would be nice to be able to use that.
3) in assembly emitted by the nvptx port, I've noticed:
.visible .func (.param.u32 %out_retval)foo(.param.u64 %in_ar1, .param.u32 %in_ar2)
{
.reg.u64 %ar1;
.reg.u32 %ar2;
.reg.u32 %retval;
.reg.u64 %hr10;
.reg.u32 %r22;
.reg.u64 %r25;
is the missing \t before the %retval line intentional?
4) I had a brief look at what it would take to port libgomp to PTX,
which is needed for OpenMP offloading. OpenMP offloaded kernels
should start with 1 team and 1 thread in it, if we ignore
GOMP_teams for now, I think the major things are:
- right now libgomp is heavily pthread_* based, which is a no-go
for nvptx I assume, I think we'll need some ifdefs in the sources
- the main thing is that I believe we just have to replace
gomp_team_start for nvptx; seems there are
cudaLaunchDevice (and cudaGetParameterBuffer) functions one can use
to spawn selected kernel in selected number of threads (and teams),
from the docs it isn't exactly clear what the calling thread will do,
if it is suspended and the HW core given to it is reused by something
else (e.g. one of the newly spawned threads), then I think it should
be usable. Not sure what happens with .local memory of the parent
task, if the children all have different .local memory, then
perhaps one could just copy over what is needed from the
invoking to the first invoked thread at start. The question is
how to figure out what to pass to cudeLaunchDevice (e.g. how to
get handle of the current stream), and how to query how many
teams and/or threads it is reasonable to ask for if the program
wants defaults (and how many teams/threads are hard limits beyond which
one can't go)
- is it worth to reuse cudaLaunchDevice "threads" or are they cheap
enough to start that any "thread" pooling should be removed for nvptx?
- we'll need some synchronization primitives, I see atomic support is
there, we need mutexes and semaphores I think, is that implementable
using bar instruction?
- the library uses __attribute__((constructor)) in 3 places or so,
initialize_team is pthread specific and can be probably ifdefed out,
we won't support dlclose in nvptx anyway, but at least we need some
way to initialize the nvptx libgomp; if the initialization is done
in global memory, would it persist in between different kernels,
so can the initialization as separate kernel be run once, something
else?
- is there any way to do any affinity management, or shall we just
ignore affinity strategies?
- the target/offloading stuff should be most likely stubbed in the
library for nvptx, target data/target regions inside of target
regions are undefined behavior in OpenMP, no need to bloat things
- any way how to query time?
Other thoughts?
Jakub