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Re: [PATCH] Convert more passes to new dump framework

On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Teresa Johnson <> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Xinliang David Li <> wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Teresa Johnson <> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Xinliang David Li <> wrote:
>>>> Except that in this form, the dump will be extremely large and not
>>>> suitable for very large applications.
>>> Yes. I did some measurements for both a fairly large source file that
>>> is heavily optimized with LIPO and for a simple toy example that has
>>> some inlining. For the large source file, the output from
>>> -fdump-ipa-inline=stderr was almost 100x the line count of the
>>> -fopt-info output. For the toy source file it was 43x. The size of the
>>> -details output was 250x and 100x, respectively. Which is untenable
>>> for a large app.
>>> The issue I am having here is that I want a more verbose message, not
>>> a more voluminous set of messages. Using either -fopt-info-all or
>>> -fdump-ipa-inline to provoke the more verbose inline message will give
>>> me a much greater volume of output.
>>> One compromise could be to emit the more verbose inliner message under
>>> a param (and a more concise "foo inlined into bar" by default with
>>> -fopt-info). Or we could do some variant of what David talks about
>>> below.
>> something like --param=verbose-opt-info=1
> Yes. Richard, would this be acceptable for now?
> i.e. the inliner messages would be like:
> -fopt-info:
>    "test.c:8:3: note: foobar inlined into foo with call count 99999000"
> (the "with call count X" only when there is profile feedback)
> -fopt-info --param=verbose-opt-info=1:
>    "test.c:8:3: note: foobar/0 (99999000) inlined into foo/2 (1000)
> with call count 99999000 (via inline instance bar [3] (99999000))
> (again the call counts only emitted under profile feedback)

It looks like a hack to me.  Is -fdump-ipa-inline useful at all?  That is,
can't we simply push some of the -details dumping into the non-details


>>>> Besides, we might also want to
>>>> use the same machinery (dump_printf_loc etc) for dump file dumping.
>>>> The current behavior of using '-details' to turn on opt-info-all
>>>> messages for dump files are not desirable.
>>> Interestingly, this doesn't even work. When I do
>>> -fdump-ipa-inline-details=stderr (with my patch containing the inliner
>>> messages) I am not getting those inliner messages emitted to stderr.
>>> Even though in dumpfile.c "details" is set to (TDF_DETAILS |
>>> sure why, but will need to debug this.
>> It works for vectorizer pass.
> Ok, let me see what is going on - I just confirmed that it is not
> working for the loop unroller messages either.
>>>> How about the following:
>>>> 1) add a new dump_kind modifier so that when that modifier is
>>>> specified, the messages won't goto the alt_dumpfile (controlled by
>>>> -fopt-info), but only to primary dump file. With this, the inline
>>>> messages can be dumped via:
>>>>    dump_printf_loc (OPT_OPTIMIZED_LOCATIONS | OPT_DUMP_FILE_ONLY, .....)
>> Yes.
>>> Typically OR-ing together flags like this indicates dump under any of
>>> those conditions. But we could implement special handling for
>>> OPT_DUMP_FILE_ONLY, which in the above case would mean dump only to
>>> the primary dump file, and only under the other conditions specified
>>> in the flag (here under "-optimized")
>>>> 2) add more flags in -fdump- support:
>>>>    -fdump-ipa-inline-opt   --> turn on opt-info messages only
>>>>    -fdump-ipa-inline-optall --> turn on opt-info-all messages
>>> According to the documentation (see the -fdump-tree- documentation on
>>> the above are already supposed to be there (-optimized, -missed, -note
>>> and -optall). However, specifying any of these gives a warning like:
>>>    cc1: warning: ignoring unknown option ‘optimized’ in
>>> ‘-fdump-ipa-inline’ [enabled by default]
>>> Probably because none is listed in the dump_options[] array in dumpfile.c.
>>> However, I don't think there is currently a way to use -fdump- options
>>> and *only* get one of these, as much of the current dump output is
>>> emitted whenever there is a dump_file defined. Until everything is
>>> migrated to the new framework it may be difficult to get this to work.
>>>>    -fdump-tree-pre-ir --> turn on GIMPLE dump only
>>>>    -fdump-tree-pre-details --> turn on everything (ir, optall, trace)
>>>> With this, developers can really just use
>>>> -fdump-ipa-inline-opt=stderr for inline messages.
>>> Yes, if we can figure out a good way to get this to work (i.e. only
>>> emit the optimized messages and not the rest of the dump messages).
>>> And unfortunately to get them all you need to specify
>>> "-fdump-ipa-all-optimized -fdump-tree-all-optimized
>>> -fdump-rtl-all-optimized" instead of just -fopt-info. Unless we can
>>> add -fdump-all-all-optimized.
>> Having general support requires cleanup of all the old style  if
>> (dump_file) fprintf (dump_file, ...) instances to be:
>>   if (dump_enabled_p ())
>>     dump_printf (dump_kind ....);
> Right. But that is going to be a big longer-term effort - grepping for
> dump_file in gcc/*.c gives about 6000 instances.
>> However, it might be easier to do this filtering for IR dump only (in
>> execute_function_dump) -- do not dump IR if any of the MSG_xxxx is
>> specified unless IR flag (a new flag) is also specified.
> Unfortunately there are a lot of messages that are not from
> execute_function_dump.
> Thanks,
> Teresa
>> David
>>> Teresa
>>>> thanks,
>>>> David
>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Richard Biener
>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Teresa Johnson <> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Richard Biener
>>>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> New patch below that removes this global variable, and also outputs
>>>>>>>>>> the node->symbol.order (in square brackets after the function name so
>>>>>>>>>> as to not clutter it). Inline messages with profile data look look:
>>>>>>>>>> test.c:8:3: note: foobar [0] (99999000) inlined into foo [2] (1000)
>>>>>>>>>> with call count 99999000 (via inline instance bar [3] (99999000))
>>>>>>>>> Ick.  This looks both redundant and cluttered.  This is supposed to be
>>>>>>>>> understandable by GCC users, not only GCC developers.
>>>>>>>> The main part that is only useful/understandable to gcc developers is
>>>>>>>> the node->symbol.order in square brackes, requested by Martin. One
>>>>>>>> possibility is that I could put that part under a param, disabled by
>>>>>>>> default. We have something similar on the google branches that emits
>>>>>>>> LIPO module info in the message, enabled via a param.
>>>>>>> But we have _dump files_ for that.  That's the developer-consumed
>>>>>>> form of opt-info.  -fopt-info is purely user sugar and for usual translation
>>>>>>> units it shouldn't exceed a single terminal full of output.
>>>>>> But as a developer I don't want to have to parse lots of dump files
>>>>>> for a summary of the major optimizations performed (e.g. inlining,
>>>>>> unrolling) for an application, unless I am diving into the reasons for
>>>>>> why or why not one of those optimizations occurred in a particular
>>>>>> location. I really do want a summary emitted to stderr so that it is
>>>>>> easily searchable/summarizable for the app as a whole.
>>>>>> For example, some of the apps I am interested in have thousands of
>>>>>> input files, and trying to collect and parse dump files for each and
>>>>>> every one is overwhelming (it probably would be even if my input files
>>>>>> numbered in the hundreds). What has been very useful is having these
>>>>>> high level summary messages of inlines and unrolls emitted to stderr
>>>>>> by -fopt-info. Then it is easy to search and sort by hotness to get a
>>>>>> feel for things like what inlines are missing when moving to a new
>>>>>> compiler, or compiling a new version of the source, for example. Then
>>>>>> you know which files to focus on and collect dump files for.
>>>>> I thought we can direct dump files to stderr now?  So, just use
>>>>> -fdump-tree-all=stderr
>>>>> and grep its contents.
>>>>>>>> I'd argue that the other information (the profile counts, emitted only
>>>>>>>> when using -fprofile-use, and the inline call chains) are useful if
>>>>>>>> you want to understand whether and how critical inlines are occurring.
>>>>>>>> I think this is the type of information that users focused on
>>>>>>>> optimizations, as well as gcc developers, want when they use
>>>>>>>> -fopt-info. Otherwise it is difficult to make sense of the inline
>>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>> Well, I doubt that inline information is interesting to users unless we are
>>>>>>> able to aggressively filter it to what users are interested in.  Which IMHO
>>>>>>> isn't possible - users are interested in "I have not inlined this even though
>>>>>>> inlining would severely improve performance" which would indicate a bug
>>>>>>> in the heuristics we can reliably detect and thus it wouldn't be there.
>>>>>> I have interacted with users who are aware of optimizations such as
>>>>>> inlining and unrolling and want to look at that information to
>>>>>> diagnose performance differences when refactoring code or using a new
>>>>>> compiler version. I also think inlining (especially cross-module) is
>>>>>> one example of an optimization that is still being tuned, and user
>>>>>> reports of performance issues related to that have been useful.
>>>>>> I really think that the two groups of people who will find -fopt-info
>>>>>> useful are gcc developers and savvy performance-hungry users. For the
>>>>>> former group the additional info is extremely useful. For the latter
>>>>>> group some of the extra information may not be required (although a
>>>>>> call count is useful for those using profile feedback), but IMO is not
>>>>>> unreasonable.
>>>>> well, your proposed output wrecks my 80x24 terminal already due to overly
>>>>> long lines.
>>>>> In the end we may up with a verbosity level for each sub-set of opt-info
>>>>> messages.  Ick.
>>>>> Richard.
>>>>>> Teresa
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Teresa Johnson | Software Engineer | | 408-460-2413
>>> --
>>> Teresa Johnson | Software Engineer | | 408-460-2413
> --
> Teresa Johnson | Software Engineer | | 408-460-2413

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