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Re: Comments on the suggestion to use infinite precision math for wide int.
- From: Richard Biener <richard dot guenther at gmail dot com>
- To: Lawrence Crowl <crowl at google dot com>
- Cc: Ian Lance Taylor <iant at google dot com>, Richard Sandiford <rdsandiford at googlemail dot com>, Mike Stump <mikestump at comcast dot net>, Kenneth Zadeck <zadeck at naturalbridge dot com>, gcc-patches <gcc-patches at gcc dot gnu dot org>
- Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:38:27 +0200
- Subject: Re: Comments on the suggestion to use infinite precision math for wide int.
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On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Lawrence Crowl <crowl@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Apr 9, 2013 2:02 AM, "Richard Biener" <richard.guenther@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Lawrence Crowl <crowl@google.com> wrote:
>> > On 4/8/13, Kenneth Zadeck <zadeck@naturalbridge.com> wrote:
>> >> The other problem, which i invite you to use the full power of
>> >> your c++ sorcery on, is the one where defining an operator so
>> >> that wide-int + unsigned hwi is either rejected or properly
>> >> zero extended. If you can do this, I will go along with
>> >> your suggestion that the internal rep should be sign extended.
>> >> Saying that constants are always sign extended seems ok, but there
>> >> are a huge number of places where we convert unsigned hwis as
>> >> the second operand and i do not want that to be a trap. I went
>> >> thru a round of this, where i did not post the patch because i
>> >> could not make this work. And the number of places where you
>> >> want to use an hwi as the second operand dwarfs the number of
>> >> places where you want to use a small integer constant.
>> >
>> > You can use overloading, as in the following, which actually ignores
>> > handling the sign in the representation.
>> >
>> > class number {
>> > unsigned int rep1;
>> > int representation;
>> > public:
>> > number(int arg) : representation(arg) {}
>> > number(unsigned int arg) : representation(arg) {}
>> > friend number operator+(number, int);
>> > friend number operator+(number, unsigned int);
>> > friend number operator+(int, number);
>> > friend number operator+(unsigned int, number);
>> > };
>> >
>> > number operator+(number n, int si) {
>> > return n.representation + si;
>> > }
>> >
>> > number operator+(number n, unsigned int ui) {
>> > return n.representation + ui;
>> > }
>> >
>> > number operator+(int si, number n) {
>> > return n.representation + si;
>> > }
>> >
>> > number operator+(unsigned int ui, number n) {
>> > return n.representation + ui;
>> > }
>>
>> That does not work for types larger than int/unsigned int as HOST_WIDE_INT
>> usually is (it's long / unsigned long). When you pass an int or unsigned
>> int
>> to
>>
>> number operator+(unsigned long ui, number n);
>> number operator+(long ui, number n)
>>
>> you get an ambiguity. You can "fix" that by relying on template argument
>> deduction and specialization instead of on overloading and integer
>> conversion
>> rules.
>
> Ah, I hadn't quite gotten the point. This problem is being fixed in the
> standard, but that won't help GCC anytime soon.
>
>>
>> > If the argument type is of a template type parameter, then
>> > you can test the template type via
>> >
>> > if (std::is_signed<T>::value)
>> > .... // sign extend
>> > else
>> > .... // zero extend
>> >
>> > See http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/type_traits/is_signed/.
>>
>> Yes, if we want to use the standard library. For what integer types
>> is std::is_signed required to be implemented in C++98 (long long?)?
>
> It is in C++03/TR1, which is our base requirement. Otherwise, we can test
> ~(T)0<(T)0.
Yeah, I think we want to test ~(T)0<(T)0 here. Relying on C++03/TR1 is
too obscure if there is an easy workaround.
Richard.
>> Consider non-GCC host compilers.
>>
>> Richard.
>>
>> > If you want to handle non-builtin types that are asigne dor unsigned,
>> > then you need to add a specialization for is_signed.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Lawrence Crowl