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>>>>> "Godmar" == Godmar Back <gback@cs.utah.edu> writes: Godmar> A couple of weeks ago, we had Guy Steele visiting the Godmar> University of Utah. We had the chance to discuss some Java Godmar> issues with him. Godmar> One issue was the issue of "first active use" of a class. I Godmar> pointed out that WAT compilers such as gcj are being penalized Godmar> because they have to insert code that checks for each possible Godmar> first use of a class whether its <clinit> initializer needs to Godmar> be invoked. Godmar> He said that his interpretation of the JLS gives such compiler Godmar> writers the freedom to preinitialize all classes before you Godmar> even invoke the main method; essentially saving that test. There's a (not well publicized) clarification note from Sun that amongst other things addresses class initialization: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jls/clarify.html The description (paraphrasing) says that a class will be initialized "immediately before" the first occurrence of a few different types of uses. So this comes down to your interpretation of the term "immediately before" being used. -jvp ------------------------------ Jim Van_Peursem, Ph.D. Motorola, Inc. 1301 E. Algonquin Rd. Schaumburg, IL 60196 e-mail: jvp@ccrl.mot.com ------------------------------ I don't speak for Motorola Motorola doesn't speak for me ------------------------------