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Howdy, I've changed the java-discuss mailing list just a bit. The list address used to be java-discuss@cygnus.com, it is now java-discuss@sourceware.cygnus.com. Mail sent to the @cygnus.com address will continue to work for the near future, please get used to typing the new @sourceware.cygnus.com address. The way you subscribe and unsubscribe is now different. To get off of this list, send a mail note to java-discuss-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com. There is a long explanation about how to unsubscribe with this mailing list software (ezmlm+idx) at http://sourceware.cygnus.com/infra/ezman/ezman-1.html#ss1.4 The new list software offers a whole bunch of benefits, including some nice spam blocking features I'll be able to enable after we stop supporting mail sent to the @cygnus.com address. Mail distribution should happen in well under thirty minutes, as opposed to the many hours it could take when it was hosted @cygnus.com. There is also a digest form of this list, if you prefer to get a single mail note every day. Unsubscribe to the list, then send a mail note to java-discuss-digest-subscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com. Please feel free to e-mail me directly with any questions or concerns. Have a groovy weekend, Jason