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Frank> I've posted this before, but I'll do it again as a reminder. Frank> There are probably quite a few of us out here that have java Frank> apps without a gui of any kind, specifically servlets that will Frank> benefit BIG TIME from the work you guys are doing. And a lot of Frank> the classes do not need to be there since it is a servlet. Just Frank> a friendly reminder... This is the group who will benefit most directly from the initial net release, since we don't have AWT or Swing. I haven't yet looked at the servlet stuff, though it's on my list of things to do. I'd be curious to know what pieces of the libraries *are* required. Tom