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Re: should sync builtins be full optimization barriers?


Hi,

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011, Andrew MacLeod wrote:

Your example was not about regular stores, it used atomic variables.
This reads as if there exists non-atomic variables in the new C++
mem-model.  Assuming that this is so, why do those ugly requirements of
not introducing new data races also apply to those non-atomic datas?


Why is it ugly to avoid introducing a data race into a race-free program? I would think that is a basic necessity for a multi threaded program.

There are normal everyday shared variables like we've always had, and there are the new atomic variables which have slightly different characteristics.

The C++11 memory model asserts that a program containing data races involving *non-atomic* variables has undefined semantics. The compiler is not allowed to introduce any data races into an otherwise correct program.

Atomic variables are effectively serialized across the system. When 2 threads write to an atomic, one will fully happen before the other and *all* threads see it happen in that order. The order may not be predictable from one run of the program to another, but all the threads in a system will see a consistant view of an atomic. This may make them more expensive to use since writes can't be delayed, cache lines may have to be flushed, or other memory subsystems may need to get involved to execute the operation properly.

All atomic operations also have a memory model parameter which specifies one of 6 synchronization modes. When the atomic value is being read or written, it controls how other outstanding shared memory operations may also be flushed into the system at the same time, assuring them visibility in other threads. Since atomic operations may have these side effects, there are serious restrictions on how they can be moved and modified by the compiler, as well as what optimizations can be performed around them. For now, the optimizers are simply treating them as function calls with side effects and doing very little.

Andrew



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