Re: Should we remove java from the default bootstrap languages?

[Graham Stott <graham dot stott at btinternet dot com>]

All,

--- Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com> wrote:

> Mark Mitchell wrote:
> > Andrew Haley wrote:
> > 
> >>> I agree.  I also agree that if someone breaks Java, they should be
> >>> required to fix the problem.  In fact, we could have the rule that the
> >>> Java maintainers get to revert a patch summarily based merely on the
> >>> fact that there exists a Java post-patch failure that does not occur
> >>> pre-patch.
> >>
> >> OK.  I'm hoping that the java mainatiners won't have _all_ the burden,
> >> though.
> >>
> >> We should have a trial phase where java build breakage on the
> >> autobuilders
> >> is mailed to the maintainers who checked in patches and to the java
> >> maintainers, and we'll see how it goes.
> >>
> >> I'm open-minded about this, but if it doesn't work we should be
> >> prepared to
> >> revert the policy.
> > 
> > I think that's reasonable.  Perhaps a 30-day trial period, after the
> > autobuilder is set up?  Then if we're seeing that the Java maintainers
> > have had to beat people up a lot -- and particularly if that isn't
> > yielding results -- then we revert?
> 
> OK, but perhaps with a slightly longer trial period.  I'm not hung up on
> that though.
> 
> > To be clear, I have no special decision-making power here.  I'm hoping
> > we can build a consensus to move in this direction, but it has to be a
> > consensus decision.
> 
> Understood.
> 
> Andrew.
> 

Maybe we could have the default depend on which stage of development the tree
is currently in. For example during stages 1 and 2 the default could be
disabled and during stage 3 it could be enabled. 

Cheers
Graham