Re: GCC 4.1: Buildable on GHz machines only?

[Karel Gardas <kgardas at objectsecurity dot com>]

On Tue, 17 May 2005, Ralf Corsepius wrote:

> > > This kind of tone will only discourage contributors.
> >
> > My tone was no different than Ralf's toward me.
>
> Well, I admit I had been sarcastic/fatalistic in replying to Steven,
> primarily, because I am pretty much frustrated about GCC's mainstream
> developer's position/attitude on embedded targets.
> Steven's answers perfectly queue-in into a long history of incidents
> which had lead me to my understanding of "GCC mainstream developers'
> attitude" on "embedded targets", which I already had described in former
> postings.

Ralf,

frustration will not help anybody nor GCC itself. Please look into GCC 3.4 
and GCC 4.0 release criteria documents:

http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.4/criteria.html
http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.0/criteria.html

you see that 4.0 added "embedded" platforms like arm-none-elf and 
mips-none-elf to the primary platforms list. That's IMHO just a sign that 
SC takes embedded developers seriously. Anyway, if you are not satisfied 
with this list, what about to suggest to SC to add some other more real 
embedded platform to this list to at least fix some of the most obvious 
problems? What platform would you suggest? I think that if you take the
discussion into this direction then we can see very good fruits comming 
from it, at least for some future GCC releases.

Thanks and I appreciate your hard work on rtems/gcc platform!
Karel
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