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Re: [gomp] Challenges in Implementing OpenMP


Sebastian Pop <sebastian.pop@cri.ensmp.fr> writes:

| On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 07:09:38AM -0500, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
| > I'm glad you had a chance to talk to Lawrence while he is in Paris at
| > this moment.  I'll be in Paris in three weeks but, unfortunately, I do
| > not think I'll have enough time to mee Albert Cohen, you and Lawrence
| > simultaneously. 
| > 
| 
| That's quite simple to solve: just give a seminar on "The Pivot" ;-)

I think I just said I can't because of my schedule -- it won't make
sense to go to see Albert and not make a presentation. 

| I for sure will be there.

No, doubt you'll be there :)

[...]

| As I have said in the last line of my previous message, I don't think
| that OpenMP is the best for parallel programming because you have no
| barriers on what you can write, and the compiler is dumb enough to not
| be able to check your statements...  For this reason I think that
| STAPL is doing a better job, or at least I hope ;-) By the way, is
| there a way to get the STAPL code for trying it out?  I have asked
| Lawrence but he still didn't replied.

I think that is something you want to discuss with Lawrence.

| >   But probably this is the whole bad point about all
| > | this approach, ie. the reason it is so difficult to reuse the high
| > | level information down in the compiler...
| > 
| > Not if you have a cooperation between transformation tools and the
| > compiler -- which is one of the main reasons The Pivot has been
| > launched, and yes there are similar projects around :-)
| 
| This is exactly what I didn't get by just reading your slides: how are
| the analyzers and transformation tools interacting with the compiler,
| c++ code or directly on IPR/XPR?  
| 
| I definitely want you to give a talk at Alchemy about all this ;-)

OK, assuming you're not just smileying and there are enough people
interested at Alchemy we might arrange for something -- but november
and december are simply not available. 

-- Gaby


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