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RE: OpenMP, HPC, and the future of GCC
- From: "Scott Robert Ladd" <scott at coyotegulch dot com>
- To: "Jan Hubicka" <jh at suse dot cz>
- Cc: "gcc List" <gcc at gcc dot gnu dot org>, <gomp-discuss at nongnu dot org>, "Per Bothner" <per at bothner dot com>
- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:09:53 -0500
- Subject: RE: OpenMP, HPC, and the future of GCC
Jan Hubicka wrote
> > Is GNU interested in supporting the HPC community?
>
> I think the question should be reversed. Is HPC comunity interested in
> supporting GNU? I don't think anyone working on GCC would not like it
> to be usefull for more people than it is now and generate better code.
> To make this happen, someone must realize it. GNU can't do it, someone
> who actually needs the feature has to make this happen.
The question is truly bidirectional; it is a matter of cooperation.
HPC receives a lot of help and cooperation from companies with a vested
interest in HPC. My question is: How much cooperation can the HPC community
expect from GCC? If people like me are willing to put in some of the work,
can GCC meet us part-way? Or is the GCC comunity so disinterested in HPC
that any work on our part would be futile?
I'm asking because I don't know the answers.
> This is problematic. Since GCC maintainers can not implement all the
> HPC support themselves, they can not give in advance an promise that
> they will accept the code. Every new feature needs to be implemented
> first and then it needs to be judged on how it works, how maintainable
> the code is before it can be accepted for mainline GCC.
As I have said before, I am not looking for GCC to give blanket pre-approval
to anything; Lord knows, that would be stupid. What I *am* asking for is an
open mind -- and several messages in this thread (*not* yours!) suggest
slammed doors.
> I personally would like to see GCC usefull for numeric computing too, so
> I would like to help with the project if it is created as my time
> allows.
And that's exactly what I'm looking for!
..Scott