[MAILER-DAEMON@sources.redhat.com] failure notice

[Gabriel Dos Reis <gdr at integrable-solutions dot net>]

Hi,

  I've just discovered by the GCC mailing lists servers are using
"aggressive" filter to block spams.  I've been listed as a spammer
(see below) according to spamcop.net.  I went to the link included in
mail 

  http://spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblock&ip=62.212.99.186

and discovered:


     62.212.99.186 is listed, but should not be.


-- Gaby

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Subject: Re: [Patch] Document pitfalls of two-stage name lookup, next revision
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Wolfgang Bangerth <bangerth@ticam.utexas.edu> writes:

| In a sense we're both poking into the dark somehow, second guessing what a 

Being precise about terms isn't "seconding guessing".

| programmer without much experience in C++ would or would not find 
| confusing. We're both in a sense language lawyers, so the best would be to 
| take a poll among said group. For the meantime...

I think you should be careful about not confusing "being precise about
the names of things" and being a "language lawyer".  I don't assume that
most (C++) programmers will have the C++ standard as their first
book.  However, most programmers will have access to modern C++ texts,
which try not to create confusion.  

[...]

| 2003-02-07 Wolfgang Bangerth <bangerth@ticam.utexas.edu>
| 	* doc/trouble.texi: Document pitfalls of two-stage name lookup

OK.

-- Gaby

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-- 
Gabriel Dos Reis,	gdr@integrable-solutions.net