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Re: Irony
- From: kaih at khms dot westfalen dot de (Kai Henningsen)
- To: rms at gnu dot org
- Cc: gcc at gcc dot gnu dot org
- Date: 30 Nov 2002 08:52:00 +0200
- Subject: Re: Irony
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- Organization: Organisation? Me?! Are you kidding?
- References: <E18Hmge-0002BD-00@fencepost.gnu.org>
rms@gnu.org (Richard Stallman) wrote on 29.11.02 in <E18Hmge-0002BD-00@fencepost.gnu.org>:
> http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html.) They also describe our
> community as "open source", connecting GCC with the wrong movement.
> (See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html.)
Frankly, I've never been able to identify a difference between "free
software" as used by rms and "Open Source" as used by esr. They're quite
obviously exactly the same thing. (Not a surprise, really, as they were
*designed* to be the same thing.)
As for "movements", AFAICT they are also the same except for a handful of
individuals who, for some silly reason or another, insist that the one
they're in is only connected with one of the names.
They're wrong.
As far as I can see, there *are* no separate movements, just different
labels for the same thing. Or, put differently, there may well be separate
movements, but all of them use both labels. The *only* person I can name
off the top of my head who insists on this invisible difference is rms.
As for the old "GNU/Linux" saw, I won't repeat the arguments against that
sillyness, they've been mentioned often enough. (Note that I'm not against
the name per se, but against the insistence on it - anything else would be
silly for someone in Debian, after all.)
And of course, it also seems rather silly for someone promoting the "GNU/
Linux" name to object when someone using the Linux name wants to honor a
GNU product. That is, after all, the same thing that the "GNU/Linux" name
is meant to do. Oh well.
Let's just say that rms' ideas about effective PR look rather strange to
me, and leave it at that.
MfG Kai