Re: hppa64-hp-hpux11.00: how to avoid usage of langtools?

["John David Anglin" <dave at hiauly1 dot hia dot nrc dot ca>]

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>From dave Thu Mar 14 23:53:35 EST 2002
Subject: Re: hppa64-hp-hpux11.00: how to avoid usage of langtools?
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:53:35 -0500 (EST)
From: "John David Anglin" <dave@hiauly1>
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> > On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Steve Ellcey wrote:
> > > Unfortunately, there are files needed by GCC that are only shipped with
> > > the HP compilers.  I am currently working with various groups here in HP
> > > to address this situation and make it possible to use GCC without having
> > > the HP compilers on a system.
> > 
> > It would be great could you arrive at a solution (and ideally provide a
> > patch for our installation documentation) before the release of GCC 3.1,
> > but in any case your efforts here are really appreciated.
> > 
> 
> 
> Here is the current "best way" that I know of to get the files you need.
> My understanding is that anyone who has purchased an HP-UX system should
> have gotten an HP application CD which has the needed files on it and
> that they are installable without needing a codeword (used to protect
> products that you have to buy).

Which files are needed?  I thought I made changes not long ago to
look in /usr/ccs/lib/pa20_64 for start files.  Secondarily, the
compiler searches /opt/langtools/lib/pa20_64.  I know you don't
get the files needed for profiling.

In the system I received from HP, I didn't get a CD.  A CD wouldn't
have been that easy to use in any case since the system as shipped
didn't have a CD drive.  Thus, I think it really important that these
files are bundled with the system when shipped.

I know there is a lot of interest in the new rp2430 in the field
scientific computation.  It provides a very attractive entry point
to 64-bit computation, particularly if the FSF tools can be used.
I don't think HP will sell any more systems or compilers by holding
back on the start files for hpux.  From anachdotal evidence, the
porting of parisc-linux and improvements in the FSF tools on the PA
has caused the price of used HP workstations to about double on ebay.
Thus, I think distributing these files will benefit both HP and its
user base.

Dave
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J. David Anglin                                  dave.anglin@nrc.ca
National Research Council of Canada              (613) 990-0752 (FAX: 952-6605)


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J. David Anglin                                  dave.anglin@nrc.ca
National Research Council of Canada              (613) 990-0752 (FAX: 952-6605)