Re: enough! (was Re: Intel+Cygnus+Optimized Compilers)

["Doug Semler" <doug at seaspace dot com>]

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Derbyshire <pderbysh@usa.net>
To: <egcs@egcs.cygnus.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 1999 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: enough! (was Re: Intel+Cygnus+Optimized Compilers)


>At 02:13 AM 2/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
>[After much tripe, including an honest to God signature-insult, which
> has been trimmed and doesn't get dignified with a response]
>
>>btw, GNUPro seems to me to be a purchase agreement for the SUPPORT of
>>said software, ie. comapany contacts, media updates  and such.  Since
>>cygnus's software is under anoncvs it'd be hard to charge for.
>
>Oh. That's reasonable, to remit operating costs. Sullying the GNU name by
>selling your souls to the money devils and charging for software for
>profit, on the other hand...
>

You are one of the most ignorant people I have ever seen...Charging for
support has been one of the tenets of free software for *_YEARS_*.

If it wasn't for Cygnus, Redhat, etc.  I don't dare venture to guess where
free software would be at this date!

You are very close to becoming the first person I ever kill file on
a mailing list.  Since you started posting to the list, all I have seen
from you are rude requests of volunteers, demands to fix things which
are broken on your side  (PS: The next line contains only one '.' :-) ),
.
demands to fix things which are documented as incomplete (if you read
the faqs you would know that libstdc++ v3 is a *_rewrite_*, not bug fixes
to v2), and ignorance of what will be the standard (ummm..btw, has it been
voted on yet?? Last I heard, public comment period had closed....).  Unlike
some people, I understand that when the following line is included as the
sole line in a C++ source file, there is something wrong, and the error
message
"syntax error" is perfectly fine for me to track down the problem...

extern foo<class T> bar;

(although, I do have to admit, I studied compilers in school, so I do know
a little about the reason why you may get a syntax error rather than an
undefined symbol 'foo' error....)

I apologize to the list for ranting like this, especially from someone who
really has only been lurking for the past 5 months, but it is really been
a long day, I am a little tipsy (ok, drunk :) ), and the bombardment of
messages is really beginning to tick me off (and it takes alot to get me
going....I'm a software engineer! :) )

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