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----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Derbyshire <pderbysh@usa.net> To: <egcs@egcs.cygnus.com> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 1999 4:42 AM Subject: Re: enough! (was Re: Intel+Cygnus+Optimized Compilers) >At 02:13 AM 2/27/99 -0500, you wrote: >[After much tripe, including an honest to God signature-insult, which > has been trimmed and doesn't get dignified with a response] > >>btw, GNUPro seems to me to be a purchase agreement for the SUPPORT of >>said software, ie. comapany contacts, media updates and such. Since >>cygnus's software is under anoncvs it'd be hard to charge for. > >Oh. That's reasonable, to remit operating costs. Sullying the GNU name by >selling your souls to the money devils and charging for software for >profit, on the other hand... > You are one of the most ignorant people I have ever seen...Charging for support has been one of the tenets of free software for *_YEARS_*. If it wasn't for Cygnus, Redhat, etc. I don't dare venture to guess where free software would be at this date! You are very close to becoming the first person I ever kill file on a mailing list. Since you started posting to the list, all I have seen from you are rude requests of volunteers, demands to fix things which are broken on your side (PS: The next line contains only one '.' :-) ), . demands to fix things which are documented as incomplete (if you read the faqs you would know that libstdc++ v3 is a *_rewrite_*, not bug fixes to v2), and ignorance of what will be the standard (ummm..btw, has it been voted on yet?? Last I heard, public comment period had closed....). Unlike some people, I understand that when the following line is included as the sole line in a C++ source file, there is something wrong, and the error message "syntax error" is perfectly fine for me to track down the problem... extern foo<class T> bar; (although, I do have to admit, I studied compilers in school, so I do know a little about the reason why you may get a syntax error rather than an undefined symbol 'foo' error....) I apologize to the list for ranting like this, especially from someone who really has only been lurking for the past 5 months, but it is really been a long day, I am a little tipsy (ok, drunk :) ), and the bombardment of messages is really beginning to tick me off (and it takes alot to get me going....I'm a software engineer! :) ) --- Doug Semler | doug@seaspace.com SeaSpace Corporation | Garbage In -- Gospel Out Least Senior Software Developer; | Minister of things to do Next Quarter Low Man on the Totem Pole | (but will Never Be Done) DNRC O- A closed mind is a terrible thing | Bus Error (passengers dumped) -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS/M d---(pu) s++:- a-- C++ UILSH+++$ P--- L++ E--- W+ N++ o-- K? w--(++$) O- M-- V- PS+ !PE Y PGP t(+) 5+++ X+ R- tv+(-) b+(++) DI++++ D G e++>++++ h!>--- r% y+>+++++** ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------