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Re: [tree-ssa-branch] simplify builtins
- From: Daniel Berlin <dberlin at dberlin dot org>
- To: Diego Novillo <dnovillo at redhat dot com>
- Cc: Aldy Hernandez <aldyh at redhat dot com>,"gcc-patches at gcc dot gnu dot org" <gcc-patches at gcc dot gnu dot org>
- Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:15:56 -0400 (EDT)
- Subject: Re: [tree-ssa-branch] simplify builtins
On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Diego Novillo wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Aldy Hernandez wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 03:55:39PM -0400, Diego Novillo wrote:
> > > On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Aldy Hernandez wrote:
> > >
> > > > what's the slowness factor in the compiler now?
> > > >
> > > Bootstrap times are roughly 2x. Yes, it's disgraceful.
> >
> > have you benchmarked this to find out where most of the time is being
> > spent?
> >
> Only once I ran the stage3 compiler under oprofile.
>
> > is it in the simplification or in the ssa building? or both?
> >
> Neither. The SSA and simplification routines didn't even make it
> to the top 20 functions. The top two were cse_insn and
> for_each_rtx. My wildly uninformed guess is that simplification
> is causing the creation of lots of junk RTL.
>
> > are we running ssa on the simplified trees only?
> >
> Yes.
>
> > are we doing the ssa-on-rtl thing as well?
> >
> Only if -fssa is enabled.
>
> > *puts speculation hat on*
> >
> > hmmmm, this seems like something worth looking into. i doubt anyone's
> > going to be too inclined to use these optimizations if there's a 2X
> > slowdown.
> >
> Absolutely.
>
> > perhaps when we start disabling rtl optimizers and replacing them with
> > simple-tree optimizers we can see an increase in speed? or at least
> > a decrease that's not as bad :)
> >
> Yes and no. In the future we will have replaced some RTL passes,
> but others we will need to keep at both tree and RTL.
>
> > now that we have everything simpliable for C, perhaps we can implement
> > one entire optimization pass (constant propagation or PRE ?) entirely
> > on trees and disable the rtl counterparts. that should give us an idea
> > of how bad things are going to look ;-).
> >
> Daniel implemented the beginnings of PRE on trees in
> tree-ssa-pre.c.
I'm not sure it should be characterized as "beginnings", considering it
does as much as our current PRE already.
:)
Though, compared to what it *will* do, it's beginnings.
>I am working on dead-code and const-prop. We
> should probably implement a bunch of the dominator based and
> control flow optimizations. But we should use profiling to
> determine what to do besides the basic scalar cleanups.
Yup yup.
>
>
> Diego.
>
>